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Anne - 15 May 2008 13:20 GMT
Hi,

Is it possible to change the startup-icon of a .mde-file? I know I can
change it in a shortcutfile, but I want it also be changed in the .mde-file.

Thanks in advance
Chris O'C - 15 May 2008 15:28 GMT
Use the menu Tools - Startup... option to change the application icon.

Chris
Microsoft MVP

>Hi,
>
>Is it possible to change the startup-icon of a .mde-file? I know I can
>change it in a shortcutfile, but I want it also be changed in the .mde-file.
Anne - 16 May 2008 10:41 GMT
The moment Access-application runs it shows the changed icon. When I look at
the content of the folder the application is stored, it still displays the
standard Access-icon. How do I change this one?

> Use the menu Tools - Startup... option to change the application icon.
>
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>>change it in a shortcutfile, but I want it also be changed in the
>>.mde-file.
Chris O'C - 18 May 2008 19:40 GMT
The only way I know of to change the icon associated with the mde file in
Windows Explorer is to change the icon of the executable that opens the mde
file extension.  The downside is that all mde files will show this icon, not
just your intended mde.

Chris
Microsoft MVP

>The moment Access-application runs it shows the changed icon. When I look at
>the content of the folder the application is stored, it still displays the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>change it in a shortcutfile, but I want it also be changed in the
>>>.mde-file.
The Frog - 19 May 2008 09:41 GMT
Hi There :-)

How about using a shortcut to launch the app, and change the icon of
the shortcut? That way the app's 'actual' icon doesnt matter, as the
user only sees the shortcuts icon - and you can make that whatever you
want.

Cheers

The Frog
Salad - 19 May 2008 10:35 GMT
> Hi There :-)
>
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>
> The Frog

I think that's what the OP is currently doing.  I think she wants the
MDE icon to be the icon for the app when looking at it in Explorer.
The Frog - 20 May 2008 07:29 GMT
Hi Salad,

Long time no chat! Hope you have been well :-) I see that I missed the
point the OP was making. I guess that leaves the only other option -
to create an .exe with Visual Studio or in VB.net or C#.net. That
could be a lot of work though. I've never seen a tool that can do
MDB / MDE to EXE.

Sorry for missing the point! I guess I needed more coffee

Cheers

The Frog
Salad - 20 May 2008 13:53 GMT
> Hi Salad,
>
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>
> Sorry for missing the point! I guess I needed more coffee

Hi Frog.  Nice to chat with you too.  Years ago I was constantly bummed
out buying presents for my mom, a person who appeared to have everything
she needed to have a comfortable life.  I never knew what to get her.  I
hit on an idea and decided to get her started on a Frog collection;
infrared frog door sentries, Frog alarm clocks, Frog slippers, Frog
statues, etc.  Last Christmas I got her a sign for their cabin that read
"Frog Parking Only.  All Others Will Be Toad".  I never lack for Frog ideas.

I read Chris O'C's comments and started thinking of what would need to
be done to accomplish the feat and my brain started getting tired
thinking of the mountain of work that would be required to come even
close to what the OP wanted.  I wasn't even sure if it'd be legal.  All
to hide the fact the app is from Access.

> Cheers
>
> The Frog
The Frog - 21 May 2008 07:47 GMT
Hi again Guys,

I was doing a little more thinking on the original topic while
contemplating the use of Frog icons for my applications, and
remembered that there was a tool I saw capable of converting Access
applications to Java - either as a stand alone app or as an applet
(ie/ through a web browser). I also managed to dig up the site!

http://www.diamondedge.com/products/Convert-Access-to-Java.html

The conversion to an applet would eliminate the need for an installed
app, and you can control what the icon is for the web site itself. I
am not sure if it is appropriate for this occasion, but it might be
worth a look. There seems to be a trial version available that will do
a conversion of the Northwind database if you want to have a look.

Its interesting that you mention the Frog related theme for gifts for
your mum, I have started to do the same for mine! There does seem to
be an endless supply of frog related products. That parking sign
sounds great, my mum would love that :-) I will go and have a look for
one :-) I managed to locate once a series of porcellain frogs from
Meißen that were all very 'Old World' ish, all in various poses, and
also some Swarovski crystal ones that were an instant hit with mine.
Thanks for the ideas, I appreciate them :-)

Cheers

The Frog
lyle fairfield - 21 May 2008 11:33 GMT
I had an old Buick. It had a Buick hood o-rnament. My grandmother was
a witch. She changed the Buick into a Mercedes. Then it had a Mercedes
hood ornament.

> Hi again Guys,
>
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>
> The Frog
The Frog - 21 May 2008 13:06 GMT
I had an old 1967 Fiat 850 Coupé some years ago. The Fiat badge fell
off and the car magically turned into rust!
Salad - 21 May 2008 13:41 GMT
> I had an old Buick. It had a Buick hood o-rnament. My grandmother was
> a witch. She changed the Buick into a Mercedes. Then it had a Mercedes
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>>
>>The Frog

My wife loves hummingbirds.  Not as great of a selection one has for
Frogs but knowing I can get a gift that's sure to please makes shopping
easy.

You might want to look up Lyle's grandma.  She can turn you into a
prince.  :)
lyle fairfield - 21 May 2008 15:11 GMT
Salad
Gramma has invited you and Frog over. I'm puzzled because she keeps
referring to you as "Newt" and chuckling and muttering some
incantation as she stirs a great cauldron of boiling water.What could
that mean?

> >>The Frog
>
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> You might want to look up Lyle's grandma.  She can turn you into a
> prince.  :)
Salad - 21 May 2008 15:50 GMT
> Salad
> Gramma has invited you and Frog over. I'm puzzled because she keeps
> referring to you as "Newt" and chuckling and muttering some
> incantation as she stirs a great cauldron of boiling water.What could
> that mean?

A bleak future from a stewing pot or else a dynomite dressing.

>>>>The Frog
>>
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>>You might want to look up Lyle's grandma.  She can turn you into a
>>prince.  :)
The Frog - 22 May 2008 12:43 GMT
I reckon that means Lyle's mum is simply in need of some hot man
meat :-)
lyle fairfield - 20 May 2008 12:17 GMT
Windows is a document based operating system. Documents are associated
with programs. When we open a document, Windows knows what program to
use, and opens the program. The icon is a visual indication of what
this program is. Not surprisingly, the icon is program based, not
document based. In a way it's a safety indication; when we see the
Access icon we can guess that double clicking the document file will
open it within Access, and not within, say, Word, which could have
unwanted effects were we to click "Save" after doing so.

Within Windows, the direct viewing and manipulation of files may be
discouraged, hence read-only, hidden and system folders and files. We
can use links or shortcuts, and we can modify the icon displayed for
these.

It seems that the [Windows Way] is unsuitable for your circumstances.
For others, I strongly suggest that files and their location be
sacrosanct and if users must see anything, they see a shortcut.

Would I want my users to see my mde file with a FFDBA Icon? Perhaps I
would if I were using runtime-Access and wanted to deceive the world
into thinking I am a much better programmer-developer than is actually
the case, that is that I, and not Access, was responsible for that
glorious interface, and those clever subforms, not to mention the
simple, clear and comprehensive reports.
Sadly, this happens sometimes.

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to change the startup-icon of a .mde-file? I know I can
> change it in a shortcutfile, but I want it also be changed in the .mde-file.
>
> Thanks in advance

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