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GiBB - 08 Jun 2007 12:32 GMT
Hello alll,

Im just wondering if there is anyway to make a Text field to have a larger
number of characters then the standard 255? im guessing VBA would be able to
but i have even less idea about VBA then i do about access!

cheers
Brendan Reynolds - 08 Jun 2007 12:36 GMT
You can't change the max size of a Text field, but you can change it to a
Memo field.

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> Hello alll,
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> cheers
Rick Brandt - 08 Jun 2007 12:38 GMT
> Hello alll,
>
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> cheers

Change field in table from Text to Memo.

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GiBB - 11 Jun 2007 09:21 GMT
Opps forgot to mention this. . . sorry,

I have tried a memo field, but the field needs to be made into a combo box
and i cannot make a memo field into a combo box.
GiBB - 11 Jun 2007 09:21 GMT
Opps forgot to mention this. . . sorry,

I have tried a memo field, but the field needs to be made into a combo box
and i cannot make a memo field into a cmobo box.
Brendan Reynolds - 11 Jun 2007 10:17 GMT
> Opps forgot to mention this. . . sorry,
>
> I have tried a memo field, but the field needs to be made into a combo box
> and i cannot make a memo field into a cmobo box.

A combo box *can* have a memo field as its control source. I just checked in
Access 2007, and it appears that the combo box wizard excludes memo fields
from the list of fields it displays, so I guess that's probably the reason
you thought you couldn't use a memo field. You can if you set the properties
manually instead of using the wizard. Of course, there is a reason why these
fields where excluded from the wizard. A combo box would not generally be a
very good choice for a a field that would contain that much data. A
multi-line text box would generally be a better choice.

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Rick Brandt - 11 Jun 2007 12:26 GMT
> > Opps forgot to mention this. . . sorry,
> >
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> choice for a a field that would contain that much data. A multi-line
> text box would generally be a better choice.

A ComboBox will truncate a memo field at 255 characters though won't it?

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Brendan Reynolds - 11 Jun 2007 15:59 GMT
>> > Opps forgot to mention this. . . sorry,
>> >
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> A ComboBox will truncate a memo field at 255 characters though won't it?

Will it, Rick? I just tried with a combo box bound to the Notes field in the
Customers table in Northwind, and I was able to enter 370 characters via the
combo box into the field. But perhaps there are other circumstances in which
truncation happens?

I tested in Access 2007. I haven't tested in any earlier version.

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John W. Vinson - 11 Jun 2007 16:45 GMT
>I have tried a memo field, but the field needs to be made into a combo box
>and i cannot make a memo field into a cmobo box.

No field ever NEEDS to be "made into a combo box".

You can *use* a combo box as a tool to display a field, but I cannot imagine
any circumstances where it would be valuable for the user to be able to see
thousands of characters displayed in a combo box. What do you see as the need
for this combo?

            John W. Vinson [MVP]
GiBB - 12 Jun 2007 11:57 GMT
ok in what ever format the field is, it needs to be able to do a few tasks.

1) needs to be either a drop down list or at least the user can somehow
select from multiple choices.
2) the choices are checklists which can be hundreds of characters alone
3) the user needs to be able to then edit the checklist on their record to
state any other information.

basicly there is a dozen different check lists for a seperate jobs, and the
users need to be able to see theie check list and then put in more
information in the check list, as each job is slightly different. To try and
make it easier for the user instead of having a dozen different forms
pointing at different tables for different jobs/check lists i am trying to
put all of them in one form.

> >I have tried a memo field, but the field needs to be made into a combo box
> >and i cannot make a memo field into a cmobo box.
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>
>              John W. Vinson [MVP]
Yvonne Anderson - 12 Jun 2007 12:17 GMT
What it is this "'Microsoft.Public.Access" group, and why is it appearing on
my computer?

I would like to be removed from this network immediately, as I did not
subscribe to it, nor did I agree to enable this network to access my
computer.

Regards,

Yvonne Michele Anderson
yvonnemichele@noos.fr

On 12/06/07 12:57, in article
04ED6B41-7B4A-453B-9B90-2E004783C86E@microsoft.com, "GiBB"

> ok in what ever format the field is, it needs to be able to do a few tasks.
>
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>>              John W. Vinson [MVP]
Rick Brandt - 12 Jun 2007 12:33 GMT
> What it is this "'Microsoft.Public.Access" group, and why is it
> appearing on my computer?
>
> I would like to be removed from this network immediately, as I did not
> subscribe to it, nor did I agree to enable this network to access my
> computer.

"it" is not accessing your computer.  Your computer is accessing "it".  You
might as well ask that the internet be removed from your computer.

Whatever tool you are using to see the groups (I am not familiar with Microsoft
Entourage) should have a means to remove the groups from your visible interface.
It might use the term "unsubscribe" or similar.    I suggest you consult the
help file.

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Yvonne Anderson - 12 Jun 2007 12:43 GMT
Thank you.

I have consulted the help file, and entourage is not allowing for me to
unsubscribe from any of the groups listed.

As long as I am not on a network that allows for my computer to be accessed,
it's not urgent...

Thank you -

On 12/06/07 13:33, in article
iwvbi.3157$c06.1602@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net, "Rick Brandt"
<rickbrandt2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> What it is this "'Microsoft.Public.Access" group, and why is it
>> appearing on my computer?
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> It might use the term "unsubscribe" or similar.    I suggest you consult the
> help file.
Yvonne Anderson - 12 Jun 2007 12:47 GMT
If so, I am not supposed to be here at all (nor do I desire to be).

You might want to inform consultants on your end -

Thank you -

On 12/06/07 13:43, in article C2945378.6949%yvonnemichele@noos.fr, "Yvonne
Anderson" <yvonnemichele@noos.fr> wrote:

> Thank you.
>
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>> It might use the term "unsubscribe" or similar.    I suggest you consult the
>> help file.
Jason Lepack - 12 Jun 2007 13:11 GMT
We are not consultants, we are regular people, just like you.  This is
a "public" usenet newsgroup.  The only way to receive messages from
this is that either you or the application you are using subscribed to
it.  So, if you don't want to receive it, unsubscribe from it.

Cheers,
Jason Lepack

> If so, I am not supposed to be here at all (nor do I desire to be).
>
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'69 Camaro - 12 Jun 2007 15:04 GMT
Hi, Yvonne.

> If so, I am not supposed to be here at all (nor do I desire to be).
> You might want to inform consultants on your end -

You're already doing that yourself.  You are currently subscribed to many,
many Usenet newsgroups, which you are posting your messages to through your
computer's newsreader, Entourage.  Each of your messages propogates to
thousands of news servers worldwide, where anyone and everyone in the world
can read them.  Looking at a few Web newsreaders may give you an idea of
just how widespread your name, words, and E-mail address now are on the
Internet:

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=kQBzKhUAAACAmNA5ojjel3RKf_B6evk
EQRNDq5QE0IYJXBfjk85Zkw&hl=en


http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3AYvonne+author%3AAnderson&start
=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=lang_en&safe=off&num=100
&

http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?query=Yvonne+Anders
on&dg=&cat=en-us-office&lang=en&cr=US&pt=3a4e9862-cdce-4bdc-8664-91038e3eb1e9&ca
tlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us


http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?query=Yvonne+
Anderson&dg=&cat=en_US_d02fc761-3f6b-402c-82f6-ba1a8875c1a7&lang=en&cr=&pt=&catl
ist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us


http://www.developersdex.com/search.asp?Search=%22Yvonne+Anderson%22

Ma'am, I suggest that you find someone who has an idea of how to use
computers to help you unsubscribe from all of these newsgroups before you
post something you'll regret.  And you'd better hurry, because you have
already posted your E-mail address in countless places and spambots are
going to harvest your E-mail address within hours of your posts.  You can
expect to receive hundreds or even thousands of spam messages for each
message you've sent to Usenet.

HTH.
Gunny

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"Yvonne Anderson" <CUT> wrote in message news:C294545B.695B%CUT...
> If so, I am not supposed to be here at all (nor do I desire to be).
>
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>>> the
>>> help file.
Douglas J. Steele - 12 Jun 2007 12:44 GMT
> (I am not familiar with Microsoft Entourage)

Rick: Entourage is a Mac product (I believe it's the Mac equivalent of
Outlook). A good resource is likely http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

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Rick Brandt - 12 Jun 2007 14:15 GMT
>> (I am not familiar with Microsoft Entourage)
>
> Rick: Entourage is a Mac product (I believe it's the Mac equivalent of
> Outlook). A good resource is likely http://www.entourage.mvps.org/

Ah, a MAC user. That explains everything.

(KIDDING) :-)

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John W. Vinson - 12 Jun 2007 16:16 GMT
>ok in what ever format the field is, it needs to be able to do a few tasks.
>
>1) needs to be either a drop down list or at least the user can somehow
>select from multiple choices.
>2) the choices are checklists which can be hundreds of characters alone

So each choice is *itself* a list of multiple items? Are you storing these
lists of multiple items in a Memo field? To me a checklist suggests a
(related) table with one record per checklist item (text describing the item
and ... tada!... a Checkbox control to check it off).

>3) the user needs to be able to then edit the checklist on their record to
>state any other information.

Fine. That has absolutely nothing to do with putting a Memo Field into a combo
box. The user wouldn't be able to edit it in a combo box ANYWAY.

>basicly there is a dozen different check lists for a seperate jobs, and the
>users need to be able to see theie check list and then put in more
>information in the check list, as each job is slightly different. To try and
>make it easier for the user instead of having a dozen different forms
>pointing at different tables for different jobs/check lists i am trying to
>put all of them in one form.

I am not suggesting "a dozen different forms"; I  agree, that would be a bad
idea. But if you're assuming that the data must all be in one table - or even
more, all in one field - to be presented to the user on one form, your
assumption is incorrect! Forms and subforms are perfectly routine and usable.

It sounds like you may want to consider a table structure with One-Many-Many:
a Jobs table, related one to many to a Checklists table, related one to many
to a ListItems table. You could use a combo box (displaying a descriptive
name, not the entire checklist itself) to choose which checklist (or lists) is
needed for a job. This combo could use a bit of VBA code to run an Append
query to copy the ChecklistItems for that list into a table related to the
Jobs table; the user could then add new checklist items, delete irrelevant
ones, edit others, using a subform showing one checklist item per record.

Would that be practical, or am I misunderstanding the nature of the problem?

            John W. Vinson [MVP]
GiBB - 13 Jun 2007 10:28 GMT
> >ok in what ever format the field is, it needs to be able to do a few tasks.
> >
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> (related) table with one record per checklist item (text describing the item
> and ... tada!... a Checkbox control to check it off).

almost correct, at the moment the choices are linked to another table, and
in that table the different choices are saved on memo fields. its more of a
guide then a check list to be honest.

> >3) the user needs to be able to then edit the checklist on their record to
> >state any other information.
>
> Fine. That has absolutely nothing to do with putting a Memo Field into a combo
> box. The user wouldn't be able to edit it in a combo box ANYWAY.

ohhh i was under the impression that if you gave the field the settings to
not limit to list you are able to pull the information off from the combo box
and then edit the field to say what you want, even if it is not from the
control data

> >basicly there is a dozen different check lists for a seperate jobs, and the
> >users need to be able to see theie check list and then put in more
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> more, all in one field - to be presented to the user on one form, your
> assumption is incorrect! Forms and subforms are perfectly routine and usable.

I have looked into a master form, which depending on that task is picked
another form shows for them to fill in the information for that task,
although the users are against this as they have requested a single form and
simple front end system. . . its not the way i would like to create the
database but im unable to persuade the users to get away from the single form
idea.

> It sounds like you may want to consider a table structure with One-Many-Many:
> a Jobs table, related one to many to a Checklists table, related one to many
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>              John W. Vinson [MVP]

Right lets describe the database, it may help you some.

i have two tables (well ok i have 8, but none of the rest have issues, they
are just feeders), one of which is two collumns, one collum (A) which is the
name of all the different jobs. column (B) is the check list for this job.
All of the other feeder tables are only one collumn.

in the main table i have all the feeding tables linked into combo boxes
(which are not limited to list as some of the records get unique data) and
this table is linked to one form.
Dennis - 08 Jun 2007 13:09 GMT
A field type of memo instead of text will allow more than 255 chars.

> Hello alll,
>
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>
> cheers
 
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