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How do I get rid of XP's MDI chaos?

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Vladimír Cvajniga - 21 Feb 2007 22:36 GMT
Sorry for cross-posting but there was no respond in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general. :-(

Sometimes I need to open three or more A2002 projects at once. So I have 3
or more items in taskbar menu for main projects. When I open any object
(form, report, form's class module, report's class module, etc...) in any of
the projects I get a new item in task list. So when I open, say, 1 form and
it's class module in each project I get CHAOS in my task list - it's very
difficult to switch to a correct object in correct project; it takes some
time to decide where I want to switch because there are too many open
objects. In Win 95/98 there was only one window for each project and I could
easily switch to the "latest" object in any project. "Latest" object means
the one that I currently work with.

Images (XP CZ SP2):
tasks-grouping set to ON:
http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76942_MDI_chaos_1_122_266lo.jpg
tasks-grouping set to OFF:
http://img105.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77040_MDI_chaos_2_122_52lo.jpg
Alt+Tab task-list:
http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77067_MDI_chaos_3_122_52lo.jpg
Alt+Tab task-list with "Alt Tab TaskSwitcher PowerToy":
http://img16.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=77117_MDI_chaos_4_122_199lo.jpg

Is there any workaround to get rid of XP's MDI chaos? I really hate this
"feature". I think that this behaviour is common for all MDI applications.

As far as you can see there's real CHAOS!!! Grrrrrrrr.... :-(

TIA

Vlado

P.S. Pls, excuse me for my poor English... :-/

P.P.S. If you have no solution, let me know, pls: What is your opinion? What
do you think about MDI chaos?
Smartin - 22 Feb 2007 01:42 GMT
> Sorry for cross-posting but there was no respond in
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general. :-(
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> What
> do you think about MDI chaos?

Hi Vlado,

In A2002 Tools | Options... View, Show frame, uncheck "Windows in Taskbar".

It works for me, and I agree MDI is very chaotic in any application,
even with only one document open!

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Vladimír Cvajniga - 22 Feb 2007 08:45 GMT
YES! It works for me, too!
Thank you very much for your respond, Smartin.

Vlado
>> Sorry for cross-posting but there was no respond in
>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general. :-(
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> It works for me, and I agree MDI is very chaotic in any application, even
> with only one document open!
Smartin - 23 Feb 2007 01:53 GMT
> YES! It works for me, too!
> Thank you very much for your respond, Smartin.

You are welcome. Sometimes it's the little things, eh?

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Vladimír Cvajniga - 23 Feb 2007 10:13 GMT
:-)
You're right. But it's quite difficult to find these little things.

Vlado
>> YES! It works for me, too!
>> Thank you very much for your respond, Smartin.
>
> You are welcome. Sometimes it's the little things, eh?
Van T. Dinh - 22 Feb 2007 01:56 GMT
Use the Menu Command Tools / Options ... / View tab and uncheck the "Windows
In TaskBar" option and you are done ...

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Van T. Dinh
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> Sorry for cross-posting but there was no respond in
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general. :-(
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> What
> do you think about MDI chaos?
Vladimír Cvajniga - 22 Feb 2007 08:46 GMT
TYVM for your respond. It really works!
Vlado
> Use the Menu Command Tools / Options ... / View tab and uncheck the
> "Windows In TaskBar" option and you are done ...
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>> What
>> do you think about MDI chaos?
David W. Fenton - 22 Feb 2007 04:31 GMT
> Sometimes I need to open three or more A2002 projects at once. So
> I have 3 or more items in taskbar menu for main projects. When I
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> and I could easily switch to the "latest" object in any project.
> "Latest" object means the one that I currently work with.

I love this kind of Microsoft thinking:

1. make a problem to solve (i.e., the MDI document interface in
Office 97 and before).

2. in the process of "solving" the made-up "problem" create worse
problems (i.e., the multiplicity of windows).

3. write something into your new operating system to work around the
problem you created in "solving" the made-up "problem" (in this
case, group application windows in the TaskBar).

When running any of the SDI versions of Office programs, I turn off
the SDI for the applications that allow it, and when running it on
WinXP, I turn off the application grouping, so that it works like
A97 on Win2K and before.

That is, so that it works in a sensible fashion without all the
complications created by the stupid move of introducing the SDI (the
only justification I can see is that web browsers worked that way;
except now they don't, because they all have tabs, because THE
SINGLE DOCUMENT INTERFACE SUCKS).

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Vladimír Cvajniga - 22 Feb 2007 08:50 GMT
:-)

TYVM for your opinion, David. I'm glad I'm not the only one... ;-)

Vlado

>> Sometimes I need to open three or more A2002 projects at once. So
>> I have 3 or more items in taskbar menu for main projects. When I
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> except now they don't, because they all have tabs, because THE
> SINGLE DOCUMENT INTERFACE SUCKS).
 
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