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MS Access Forum / Setup / Configuration / May 2008Access 2003 Runtime and SP2
I need to distribute the Access 2003 runtime with my application (I've got my installer to the point where it checks for Access 2003 and if it is not found installs the runtime). However, because we digitally sign the app the target machine needs to have SP2 installed (at least) otherwise Access crashes when the mde is opened (I believe this was a bug that was fixed with SP2). The issue is that I can't seem to locate a version of the Access Runtime msi which contains SP2 (searching through my MSDN subscription hasn't yielded any results). I really would like to provide a seamless install for my users, so I don't want to have to direct them to Microsoft updates before they try to launch my application. Does anyone know if: A) An Access 2003 Runtime msi installer exists with SP2 included within the msi? B) If I can legally distribute Office SP2 as part of my application and patch the target computer when necessary? C) If another solution exists to this issue without resorting to having users install SP2 on their own? Thanks for any info you might be able to shed. >A) An Access 2003 Runtime msi installer exists with SP2 included within the >msi? Not to my knowledge. I would very much like one as well. >B) If I can legally distribute Office SP2 as part of my application and >patch the target computer when necessary? I don't see why not. However that's rather large as I recall. Somewhere in the vicinity of 100 Mb. PITA >C) If another solution exists to this issue without resorting to having >users install SP2 on their own? Not to my knowledge. What also irks me is that Microsoft Update won't find the A2003 runtime to install Access SP2. To me this is a rather large security hole. Microsoft Update does find A2002 runtime just fine and installs just an A2002 SP. Tony  SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ Tony, Thanks for the information, you confirmed what I suspected. In case you're interested, I found a post on another forum which describes how to slipstream SP2 into the Access 2003 Runtime MSI. I stepped through the process this morning and have tested it out on a couple of times and it appears to work. I'll have to run a few more tests before we release our installer into the wild, but so far so good. http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=30192&mpage=1&key=& > >A) An Access 2003 Runtime msi installer exists with SP2 included within the > >msi? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Tony >Thanks for the information, you confirmed what I suspected. In case you're >interested, I found a post on another forum which describes how to slipstream [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=30192&mpage=1&key=& I'm very, very interested in this. Many thanks. Blogged. Tony SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ >Thanks for the information, you confirmed what I suspected. In case you're >interested, I found a post on another forum which describes how to slipstream [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=30192&mpage=1&key=& A fellow MVP confirmed that this also worked for SP3 as well as the SP3 hotfix Tony SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ >>Thanks for the information, you confirmed what I suspected. In case you're >>interested, I found a post on another forum which describes how to slipstream [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >A fellow MVP confirmed that this also worked for SP3 as well as the >SP3 hotfix He also added that then the Windows Update then found some security related patches to download and install. Which I thought was very interesting. Tony SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ Is there a similar "fix" for the Access 2002 runtime? The SP's don't always update my runtime installs. It seems to be machine dependant. Patrick. Tony, Thanks for the information, you confirmed what I suspected. In case you're interested, I found a post on another forum which describes how to slipstream SP2 into the Access 2003 Runtime MSI. I stepped through the process this morning and have tested it out on a couple of times and it appears to work. I'll have to run a few more tests before we release our installer into the wild, but so far so good. http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=30192&mpage=1&key=& "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > Tim Lentine <TimLentine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tony >Is there a similar "fix" for the Access 2002 runtime? The SP's don't always >update my runtime installs. It seems to be machine dependant. This might very well work. But you can download the A2002 runtime patch separately http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=834693. A lot more convenient than the entire Office 2003 SP3 required just for the Access 2003 runtime. Tony SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ Thanks Tony, but the problem in my experience is that SP does not always run. I've just tried it on one system having an XP runtime with MSAccess.exe version 10.0.4302.0 and got a dialog stating: "The expected version of the product was not found on your system." Patrick. "Patrick Jackman" <pjackman@wimse.com> wrote: >Is there a similar "fix" for the Access 2002 runtime? The SP's don't always >update my runtime installs. It seems to be machine dependant. This might very well work. But you can download the A2002 runtime patch separately http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=834693. A lot more convenient than the entire Office 2003 SP3 required just for the Access 2003 runtime. Tony SignatureTony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can read the entire thread of messages. Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/ Have you noticed any commonalities regarding OS, version of Windows Installer, or anything else on the machines that won't install the SP? > Thanks Tony, but the problem in my experience is that SP does not always > run. I've just tried it on one system having an XP runtime with MSAccess.exe [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tony It's a client site. I'll ask. I should mention that the installs are done with SageKey's scripts for Wise. Patrick. Have you noticed any commonalities regarding OS, version of Windows Installer, or anything else on the machines that won't install the SP? "Patrick Jackman" wrote: > Thanks Tony, but the problem in my experience is that SP does not always > run. I've just tried it on one system having an XP runtime with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tony
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