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nanmacarb55 - 01 Jan 2007 19:07 GMT

I work at a medical facility that still only has Access 2000.

I have obviously kept the same at home but am planning to take an on-line
course that requires Access 2003. I need to have both Access 2000 and 2003
available

I just went to a local computer store and was told I needed to purchase a
full version Access 2003 rather than an upgrade. When I questioned why he
said that my existing Access 2000 program would no longer work.

I also have the Office 2007 Beta version and he also told me not to install
it as there are many bugs in it...

Frustrating day.

Are both statements true?

Thank you for any suggestions and help.

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Douglas J. Steele - 01 Jan 2007 21:15 GMT

You were misinformed.

It's possible to have multiple versions of Access installed on the same
machine. You need to ensure that you install each version in its own folder.

Access 2007 has now been released (although I'm not sure whether it's in the
stores yet). I wouldn't recommend loading the Beta version. There are bugs,
although how many depend on which specific version of the Beta you have. You
might want to take a look at the summary Allen Browne has at
http://www.allenbrowne.com/Access2007.html

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nanmacarb55 - 01 Jan 2007 21:38 GMT

Thank you for your prompt response! The class starts shortly so I appreciate
this...

My biggest question and concern is if I purchase an update rather than a
full version, will each run fully in a separate folder? I was told they would
not. He said a reinstall of Access 2000 would also not work correctly.

Plus I was told where the course was through adult education (ed2go.com), I
could not purchase an educational version.

If I need to purchase a full version, that's fine. (My fault for purchasing
Office 2003 without Access when I purchased my new computer.)

I just want to do this correctly.

Thank you again!

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Gina Whipp - 01 Jan 2007 23:34 GMT

If you have Access 2000 I believe you qualify but to check if you qualify
for the Upgrade Edition, check the outside of the box. It will state on the
side of the box what software you require to qualify for the upgrade.

On my machine I have 2000, XP(2002) and 2003, all in seperate folders and
didn't have to reinstall a thing after installation.

I am unsure of the Education Edition and what the requirements are to
purchase it as I have never tried to purchase that one.

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Douglas J. Steele - 02 Jan 2007 00:52 GMT

You cannot install an upgrade version and keep the old version on your
machine: the reason an upgrade version is cheaper is because you're
replacing an existing version.

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Gina Whipp - 02 Jan 2007 01:02 GMT

Douglas,

I did it with Access 2003 and kept my previous versions with no trouble. I
have been upgading since Access 2.0. Did something change?

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Douglas J. Steele - 02 Jan 2007 12:04 GMT

You may be able to do it, but my understanding is that it's not legal. As I
said, that's the reason why the upgrade version is cheaper: you're not
actually getting a second license, you're just changing the terms of your
original license.

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Gina Whipp - 02 Jan 2007 14:51 GMT

Doug,

I understand what you are saying AND I called Microsoft to make sure the way
I am doing is okay and legal... too long to layout in this eMail but you
are correct (If interested let me know and I'll send you an eMail.)... You
CAN do it but if you want to run ALL versions legally you must buy the full
versions of Access.

Thanks for pointing that out to me!!!

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Douglas J. Steele - 02 Jan 2007 15:08 GMT

Thanks for the confirmation, Gina.

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Gina Whipp - 02 Jan 2007 01:31 GMT

The below article tells you how toinstall and keep previous versions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826319/en-us See the section labeled Method
1. I also note that all my versions are in different directories.

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pvdg42 - 02 Jan 2007 02:47 GMT

> The below article tells you how toinstall and keep previous versions:
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> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826319/en-us See the section labeled
> Method 1. I also note that all my versions are in different directories.

Gina, I believe Douglas is addressing the licensing issue, not the technical
possibilities.
When you purchase an upgrade product at a reduced price, you are "trading
in" the old version for the new one. If you read the upgrade EULA carefully,
you will find that with the upgrade, you have a single license *only* for
the new version, and you were supposed to have replaces the old version with
the new one.

If the OP wants to legally have two versions of Access running concurrently,
he needs two licenses, thus the advice to purchase the full version.

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Gina Whipp - 02 Jan 2007 03:36 GMT

I guess I need to read the EULA more carefully... Thanks!

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