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ak - 09 Apr 2008 13:11 GMT
Dear Experts,

I have created table1 as main form :
  SN, NAME
Then created table2 as sub-form :
  TRACK_NO, DOCUMENT_NAME,  RECEIVED_DATE

The problem is I enter document information for each TRACK_NO.
TRACK_NO is auto number.  If I press enter key next number will be
coming automatically.  In case I delete this number one number will be
missing.  This number missing not beautiful.  I dont like this way.  I need
all numbers (TRACK_NO). In case 2 numbers automaticaly coming that
also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
favor in this regard.
Al Campagna - 09 Apr 2008 13:53 GMT
ak,
   Instead of using an autonumber, use a LongInteger field.
   On your subform, set the DefaultValue of TrackNo to...
       =NZ(DMax("[TrackNo]", "table2")) +1
    Every time you create a new record, TrackNo will be the next larger
value than is stored in the table.
    Also, to help insure no sequence gaps... don't allow any record
deletions in that table.
Signature

   hth
   Al Campagna
   Microsoft Access MVP
   http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

   "Find a job that you love... and you'll never work a day in your life."

> Dear Experts,
>
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> also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> favor in this regard.
ak - 13 Apr 2008 08:38 GMT
I have typed as per you mentioned. But in vein.
I get a remark as :
  Unknown function 'NZ' in validation expression or default value on
'Table2.SN'.
Please help.

> ak,
>     Instead of using an autonumber, use a LongInteger field.
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> > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 13 Apr 2008 16:26 GMT
You've almost certainly got a Missing Reference, Ak.
Open a Module, Go to Tools, Reference and check what is there. If any are
marked as Missing, note their names and Untick them. Run Debug. If you still
have a problem, find the missing reference in the list and tick it.
Evi
> I have typed as per you mentioned. But in vein.
> I get a remark as :
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> > > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> > > favor in this regard.
ak - 14 Apr 2008 07:00 GMT
I did not got your instruction.  Where is that Module to open?

> You've almost certainly got a Missing Reference, Ak.
> Open a Module, Go to Tools, Reference and check what is there. If any are
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> > > > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> > > > favor in this regard.
Evi - 14 Apr 2008 21:37 GMT
In your main database window, click on the word Module and choose New so
that a new Module Page opens.
You will see Tools on the Menu Bar and under that, you will find References.

Evi

> I did not got your instruction.  Where is that Module to open?
>
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> > > > > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> > > > > favor in this regard.
Al Campagna - 14 Apr 2008 03:47 GMT
ak,
  Whenever you have trouble with code, please cut and paste that code
"exactly" into your reply.
  We need to see your code just as you have it.
Signature

   hth
   Al Campagna
   Microsoft Access MVP
   http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

   "Find a job that you love... and you'll never work a day in your life."

>I have typed as per you mentioned. But in vein.
> I get a remark as :
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>> > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
>> > favor in this regard.
ak - 14 Apr 2008 06:59 GMT
This is the Code I typed :
=NZ(DMax("[TRACK_NO]","table2"))+1
Awaiting your response.

> ak,
>    Whenever you have trouble with code, please cut and paste that code
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> >> > also waste.  How to solve this problem?  Would appreciate your greate
> >> > favor in this regard.
Al Campagna - 14 Apr 2008 13:08 GMT
ak,
  Evi's response (in this thread) would be correct.  You have a missing
Reference, so Access doesn't know what an NZ function is.
  Read Evi's reply, and in addition, you can try Doug Steele's excellent
write up on the subject.
  http://www.accessmvp.com/djsteele/AccessReferenceErrors.html

  While in Design mode for your form, select View/ViewCode from the
menubar.  That will place yoiu in the code module... follow the
instructuions from Evi or Doug to locate the missing reference.
Signature

   hth
   Al Campagna
   Microsoft Access MVP
   http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

   "Find a job that you love... and you'll never work a day in your life."

> This is the Code I typed :
> =NZ(DMax("[TRACK_NO]","table2"))+1
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>> >> > greate
>> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 15 Apr 2008 07:52 GMT
Dear Expert,
I am not satisfied with your response this way.  Please Please help me more.
The thing is, as I am aware about myself I am not expert in visual basic. But
please solve the problem from your side itself in easy way.  I have read
Evi's reply and Doug Steele's write up too.  I am in a big problem of solve
the problem.  Please help me.

> ak,
>    Evi's response (in this thread) would be correct.  You have a missing
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> >> >> > greate
> >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 15 Apr 2008 12:05 GMT
Which is the bit you don't understand, Ak. We'll try to say it another way.
We do understand that you are trying to understand the complications of
Access while using a language with which you are not completely familiar and
I'm sure that when you write  'I am not satisfied with your response' you
are not aware of how inappropriate it sounds. It will make others hesitate
to answer your posts. It is the sort of thing you would say to an employee
to whom you are paying a salary.

In fact, Al's explanation sounds very clear to me. So please explain which
bit isn't clear to you.
Evi

> Dear Expert,
> I am not satisfied with your response this way.  Please Please help me more.
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> > >> >> > greate
> > >> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 15 Apr 2008 12:58 GMT
Evi,
I am so sorry about my language problem and I know you are doing a free
service.
I need to know why not working once I type the below :
 NZ(DMax("[TrackNo]", "table2")) +1
Anyway I need to see that properly working.  Please help me.
Where is the problem?  Is it problem of wrong table name? What is NZ?
Sorry for disturbance.

> Which is the bit you don't understand, Ak. We'll try to say it another way.
> We do understand that you are trying to understand the complications of
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> > > >> >> > greate
> > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 15 Apr 2008 13:26 GMT
Hi Ak
I've just realized that you are probably using this in your *Table*'s
Default Value. I've just tried this on a database table with no missing
references for the DMax and NZ functions and I get the same results as you
do.

What Al said is that you have to use the function in your Subform

To do this, open your Subform by itself in Design View, click on your
Control. Click on the Properties button, and on the Data Tab, type the
formula next to where it says Default Value

Replace table2 with the correct name for your table which contains the field
TrackNo

Evi

> Evi,
> I am so sorry about my language problem and I know you are doing a free
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> > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 15 Apr 2008 15:26 GMT
Hi Evi,
I did not find any Default Value in Data Tab in control of sub form.
What can I do?  Please help?

> Hi Ak
> I've just realized that you are probably using this in your *Table*'s
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> > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 15 Apr 2008 15:54 GMT
I've been looking at the very start of this thread and I think we need to
approach this differently
I think that what you need is a) keep your Autonumber field - you never have
to look at it if you don't want to but they are so easy to maintain.

Add a Number field to your table - lets call it SortNum (or whatever you
like)

To ensure that the next consecutive number is always added, in your subform
use the AfterUpdate Event of one the controls which you always use when you
want to add a new record

The code you will use will say

If IsNull(Me.SortNum) then
Me.SortNum = NZ(DMax("[SortNum]", "table2","[Track_No]<" & [Track_No])) + 1
End If

Replace table and field names with the real ones.

Evi

> Hi Evi,
> I did not find any Default Value in Data Tab in control of sub form.
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> > > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 20 Apr 2008 08:44 GMT
Evi,
I am worried about I could not do this.  You are saying in right way.  But
once I try to do this I could not make it practicable.  The reason is my lack
of knowlege, I know.  But if I get info more simlified way I believe I can do
that.  Can you help me please?  I created control, I went to properties etc..
etc...

> I've been looking at the very start of this thread and I think we need to
> approach this differently
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> > > > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 21 Apr 2008 07:42 GMT
Ak, give us
the name of the table which contains the field SortNum
The name of the first control in your form which you always fill in when you
are creating a new record.
Evi
> Evi,
> I am worried about I could not do this.  You are saying in right way.  But
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> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > > > write up on the subject.

http://www.accessmvp.com/djsteele/AccessReferenceErrors.html

> > > > > > > >    While in Design mode for your form, select View/ViewCode from
> > the
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> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:A4BD6897-3C41-4971-9205-9EC026072045@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > >> >I have typed as per you mentioned. But in vein.
> > > > > > > > >> > I get a remark as :
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> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:C2418C52-09B2-455D-B4B9-62EDC634502C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Dear Experts,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
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> > > > > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 20 Apr 2008 15:29 GMT
Evi,
I have typed in my database form properties of control as you told.  But
there is a certain mistake which I made or something else such as I dont know
what is Me.SortNum something like that.  But I believe you can help me more
to enable me to do that.  I am sorry for this.  Please help.  I have more and
more worry about disturbing you.  I know this is free service.

> I've been looking at the very start of this thread and I think we need to
> approach this differently
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> > > > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 21 Apr 2008 07:52 GMT
Hi ak, sorry about the delay. I fell down the stairs and hurt my arm and
haven't been able to write for a couple of days.
Me.SortNum
In code pages, when you want to write about a control in the form or report
which is open, you write
Me
a dot
and the name of the control.
Evi

> Evi,
> I have typed in my database form properties of control as you told.  But
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> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > > > write up on the subject.

http://www.accessmvp.com/djsteele/AccessReferenceErrors.html

> > > > > > > >    While in Design mode for your form, select View/ViewCode from
> > the
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:A4BD6897-3C41-4971-9205-9EC026072045@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > >> >I have typed as per you mentioned. But in vein.
> > > > > > > > >> > I get a remark as :
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> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:C2418C52-09B2-455D-B4B9-62EDC634502C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Dear Experts,
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
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> > > > > > > > >> >> > greate
> > > > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
ak - 22 Apr 2008 07:26 GMT
I could not do that.  

> Hi ak, sorry about the delay. I fell down the stairs and hurt my arm and
> haven't been able to write for a couple of days.
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> > > > > > > > > >> >> > favor in this regard.
Evi - 22 Apr 2008 10:28 GMT
Ak, what is the name of a control in your form, not the Autonumber field,
but the first one which you fill in when you are adding a new record?
Evi
> I could not do that.
>
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> > > > > > > > > > > This is the Code I typed :
> > > > > > > > > > > =NZ(DMax("[TRACK_NO]","table2"))+1
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> > > > > > > > > > >> >>     Al Campagna
> > > > > > > > > > >> >>     Microsoft Access MVP

http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > >> >>     "Find a job that you love... and you'll never work
> > a
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> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > greate
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ak - 22 Apr 2008 12:30 GMT
I use one form, created by wizard.  This is form made by wizard from Table2.
In this form TRACK_NO, DOCUMENT_NAME, PROCESS_FINISHED and so on.

> Ak, what is the name of a control in your form, not the Autonumber field,
> but the first one which you fill in when you are adding a new record?
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> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > Dear Experts,
Evi - 23 Apr 2008 06:27 GMT
See if you can perform the following steps: Tell us which steps you can't do
Add a number field called SortNum to the table on which the form is based.
It must be a Number field.
If your form is based on a query, Open the query in design view and add this
field to the query grid

In the Form's Design View, click the Field List button and add your new
SortNum field to the form by dragging it from the Field List onto the Form.
click on the Document_Name control
Click on Properties
Click on the Events tab
Click next to After Update so that you open a code page
Just above where it says End Sub, paste the following:
If IsNull(Me.SortNum) then
Me.SortNum = NZ(DMax("[SortNum]", "table2","[Track_No]<" &
[Track_No]))+1
End If
Replace the word table2 with the real name of the table which contains the
SortNum field.

Now, when you fill in your form, don't bother to fill in SortNum, as soon as
you have filled in Document_Name, the SortNum field will fill itself in
(hopefully!)
Evi

> I use one form, created by wizard.  This is form made by wizard from Table2.
> In this form TRACK_NO, DOCUMENT_NAME, PROCESS_FINISHED and so on.
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:BFE61847-BA38-4EAA-A7F6-214599F4EB29@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Expert,
> > > > > > > > > > > I am not satisfied with your response this way.  Please
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> > > > > > > > > > > > >>     Al Campagna
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>     Microsoft Access MVP

http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > >>     "Find a job that you love... and you'll never
> > work a
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> > > > news:C2418C52-09B2-455D-B4B9-62EDC634502C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > Dear Experts,
ak - 23 Apr 2008 12:12 GMT
Evi,
I have done as you told me. After SortNum field next field is NAME.  Instead
of Document_Name control
2nd field is NAME.  So 1st field is SortNum.  Once I enter name in NAME
filed I get an error message
 Run-time error '3075':
 Syntax-error (missing operator) in query expression '[Track_No]<'.

As you told me once I enter name in NAME filed the SortNum have to display
new field number.
Let me tell you what are the field in this form I created.
SortNum
NAME
TRACK_NO
DOCUMETN_NAME
PROCESS_FINISHED
PROCESS FOR
FORWARDED_TO
FORWARDED DATE
NOTES
Please comment.

> See if you can perform the following steps: Tell us which steps you can't do
> Add a number field called SortNum to the table on which the form is based.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html
Evi - 23 Apr 2008 13:51 GMT
Ak, you need to rename the Name field. Name is a reserved word in Access. At
some time, when you least expect it, it will cause an inexplicable problem.
I see that you have spelt Document_Name as Documetn_Name - is that just a
typo?

Paste the actual code which you have on your form's code page. It is
possible that the email broke up the message lines.

Evi

> Evi,
> I have done as you told me. After SortNum field next field is NAME.  Instead
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:289BA7C0-DDE7-4843-A54A-7166F26CB56C@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > Evi,
> > > > > > > > > > > I am so sorry about my language problem and I know you are
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     Al Campagna
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     Microsoft Access MVP

http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >     "Find a job that you love... and you'll never
> > work a
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > http://home.comcast.net/~cccsolutions/index.html
ak - 24 Apr 2008 10:26 GMT
Once going on this way by lot of question and answer I am confused.  This is
my problem.  Now question arise this way.  What will do with track number in
Sub form.
I guess the sort number is only for sorting records.  If there is SortNum I
hope no need of Track_No
Actually I need a databse to maintain my office documents.
For example there are 100 people in a company.  Each one have several issues
daily such as
Passport renewal
Driving license renewal
need medical card
need exit reentry
need family visa
so on....
Once an employee e.g. serial number 7 bring 5 issues one day this 5 issues I
will file as 5 issues physically in five pages.  In each page I will write
down serial number without duplicate number.  In my way this is Track_No.
Main form will be keeping
SN   (serial number of employee)
NAME1  (employee name)
DESIGNATIONA
LOCATION  (employee's office location)
CONTACT

SN will be primary key.  
Once one employee ask me about his certain date's certain case I will search
in database.  So I can see his SN and Track_No.
I can take that paper according to the Track_No from the physical file which
I filed serially.
Please help me.
 

> Ak, you need to rename the Name field. Name is a reserved word in Access. At
> some time, when you least expect it, it will cause an inexplicable problem.
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> > > > > > > > > > > read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evi's reply and Doug Steele's write up too.  I am
Evi - 24 Apr 2008 12:34 GMT
I know what you mean about the questions and answers!
Ak,  keep Track_No if it is your Autonumber Primary Key field. You don't
have to look at it, you can make it invisible in forms and reports but until
you are more accustomed to Access, it would be safer to let it do its work
in the background.

Currently the DMax uses it to find which records come before the current
one.

It *sounds* as if your database structure needs to be like this:
TblLocation
LocID
Location (all the different office locations)

TblEmployee
EmpSN
EmpFirstName
EmpSurname
LocID (Linked from TblLocation

TblIssue
IssueID
Issue (eg Passport renewal, Family Visa)

TblDocument
Track_No (if that is your Autonumber, primary key)
SortNum
EmpSN (linked from TblEmployee)
IssueID (linked from TblIssue)
ReceivedDate (Date you received the document)
Other fields which concern that employee with that document

I don't know what DesignationA or Contact refer to - whether they concern
the document or the employee or both or neither,  so I don't know which
table they belong to or if they need to be linked from a seperate table.

Evi

> Once going on this way by lot of question and answer I am confused.  This is
> my problem.  Now question arise this way.  What will do with track number in
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> > > > > > > > > > "ak" <akuttym@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Evi,
> > > > > > > > > > > I did not find any Default Value in Data Tab in control of
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> > > > > > > > > > > > read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evi's reply and Doug Steele's write up too.  I am
ak - 24 Apr 2008 11:10 GMT
I changed the NAME filed to NAME1.  Still keep getting the same error.
So let me forget about the issue of Document_Name.

> Ak, you need to rename the Name field. Name is a reserved word in Access. At
> some time, when you least expect it, it will cause an inexplicable problem.
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> > > > > > > > > > > read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evi's reply and Doug Steele's write up too.  I am
 
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