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record-level locking fix in KB238258 does not work

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Tim K. - 24 Aug 2007 16:18 GMT
Hi,

I have an Access 2002 database (split into front-end and back-end) with a
workgroup for users to login from.  I set up all the forms and Options to use
record-level locking, but when you edit one record, you'll lock several of
the surrounding records (i.e. page-locking).  My searches led me to the
knowledge base article 238258, but I cannot install the Office 2000
SR-1/SR-1a fix because we have SP3 for Office 2000 installed.  I have
confirmed that if I do not use the workgroup to log into the database Access
uses record-level locking.

Has anyone else come across this or have any suggestions ?

Thanks, Tim K.
Albert D. Kallal - 24 Aug 2007 22:20 GMT
You are confusing me here, that article 238258 applies to access 2000

Are you using access 2000 here?

Also, that article notes that when you don't use a shortcut, the record
level locking works.

So, can I assume that when you don't use a shortcut, your record level
locking works?

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Edmonton, Alberta Canada
pleaseNOOSpamKallal@msn.com

Tim K. - 25 Aug 2007 01:20 GMT
Hi,

Yes, the KB article says it applies to Access 2000.  And I am using Access
2002, but I am having exactly the same issue reported.  You are correct, if I
do not use the shortcut to open the database, record locking works as you
would expect.  Unfortunately, I must continue to use the shortcut so the
workgroup file can log users in.

Any ideas ?

Thanks !

-Tim

> You are confusing me here, that article 238258 applies to access 2000
>
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> So, can I assume that when you don't use a shortcut, your record level
> locking works?
Albert D. Kallal - 25 Aug 2007 02:29 GMT
> if I
> do not use the shortcut to open the database, record locking works as you
> would expect.  Unfortunately, I must continue to use the shortcut so the
> workgroup file can log users in.
>
> Any ideas ?

Perhaps you are still using a2000 format? (but, to be honest, I would have
"guessed" that your problem would not occur in a2002 and later)....

I assume you gone:

tools->options->advanced

Make sure the following option is checked:

[x]  check the Open databases using record level locking.

Here is two more things to try:
(I don't have a2002 with me).

You could "set" the row locking in your startup code:

eg:

     Application.SetOption "ShowWindowsInTaskbar", False
     Application.SetOption "ShowWindowsInTaskbar", False
     Application.SetOption "Themed Form Controls", True
     Application.SetOption "Show Startup Dialog Box", False
     Application.CommandBars.AdaptiveMenus = False

     application.SetOption "Use Row Level Locking",true

Note the above last setting....

So, try converting your application to a2002 format (the default is 2000
format).

And....If that don't work, then try the above in your startup code.....

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Albert D. Kallal    (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
pleaseNOOSpamKallal@msn.com

Tim K. - 27 Aug 2007 20:14 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions.  I converted the backend databases to 2002 (the
front end was already 2002) and as you suspected, that did not have any
effect.  I also tried out the SetOption suggestion and that did not appear to
have any effect either.  The "Open databases using record level locking" was
also checked.

I'm not certain if you have any other ideas, but I was thinking of setting
up a test database (one without sensitive material but similar in
structure/setup) in case I need to put a call in to Microsoft Tech Support.  
I don't know if the news group allows attachments, but I could send that db
to you as well.

Thanks again, Tim K.

> > if I
> > do not use the shortcut to open the database, record locking works as you
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>
> And....If that don't work, then try the above in your startup code.....
Albert D. Kallal - 28 Aug 2007 04:33 GMT
You have checked the obvious settings on the forms..right?

Regardless of the "row locking", each form still have to be set to lock the
record, or the table.

Perhaps you have a form set to lock a whole table......

I not seen your problem posted here, and it certainly not a regular problem.

So, those settings don't change the forms as to if the current record is
locked.

(the setting DOES change how a form locks records IF THE FORM IS SET to lock
records).

However, since you mentioned things DO work without using a shortcut, then
the above would not apply to you.

I would perhaps try joining the workgroup file, and then launching not using
a shortcut...and see if that works. Like I say, that problem refers to
a2000, and you not using that version....

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Albert D. Kallal    (Access MVP)
Edmonton, Alberta Canada
pleaseNOOSpamKallal@msn.com

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> You have checked the obvious settings on the forms..right?
>
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> using a shortcut...and see if that works. Like I say, that problem refers
> to a2000, and you not using that version....
Larry Linson - 22 Nov 2007 03:46 GMT
Yes, you have proved you can post to this newsgroup. No, you have not
contributed either questions or answers about the subject, which is: using
Microsoft Access database software in a multiuser environment.

If you are looking for conversation, find a chat room; if you are trying to
prove you are a juvenile or have a juvenile attitude, you have accomplished
that; if you are looking for "pen pals," look for a newsgroup in USENET.

 Larry Linson
 Microsoft Access MVP

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>> You have checked the obvious settings on the forms..right?
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>> using a shortcut...and see if that works. Like I say, that problem refers
>> to a2000, and you not using that version....
 
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