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Are drive letters/mappings a conflict with FE/BE?

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CAD Fiend - 12 Jul 2005 23:34 GMT
Hello,

I am going to be deploying a database FE/BE to my client, where they
will have the FE on their local C drives, but the BE will be on the
server on a mapped drive letter P (for projects).  Will there be any
issues with that?  I have never done this and want to try and anticipate
any problems before I ship it out to them.

TIA.

Phil.
Joan Wild - 12 Jul 2005 23:50 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> issues with that?  I have never done this and want to try and anticipate
> any problems before I ship it out to them.

As long as you are absolutely certain that all users use P for mapping to
that location, it will be OK.

I would use UNC pathnames in the link instead.  Then you don't need to worry
about drive mappings.  When you refresh links, you can navigate to the
backend using Network Neighborhood and that will use UNC pathnames.

Mapped drives need to be resolved to UNC, so you may as well use it to begin
with.

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CAD Fiend - 13 Jul 2005 01:03 GMT
Hi Joan:

See my comments below in your reply.

Thanks.

Phil.

> > Hello,
> >
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>
> I would use UNC pathnames in the link instead

a) Like if their server path was P:\Projects\Data\Access\BE\ (where I was going
to put the BE file) in the UNC convention it would just be
\\Projects\Data\Access\BE\, right?

b)Where and how do I change the link?

> .  Then you don't need to worry
> about drive mappings.  When you refresh links,

a) When is that going to be needed to be done?  When they first run the FE in
Access?

b) I forgot to mention, will they be starting the application from their C drive
or the projects folder where the BE is?

> you can navigate to the
> backend using Network Neighborhood

Does Win2K have Network Neighborhood (it's been a while since I've used 2K)?

> and that will use UNC pathnames.
>
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> Joan Wild
> Microsoft Access MVP
Van T. Dinh - 13 Jul 2005 01:39 GMT
See in-line comments.

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Van T. Dinh
MVP (Access)

> a) Like if their server path was P:\Projects\Data\Access\BE\ (where I was
> going
> to put the BE file) in the UNC convention it would just be
> \\Projects\Data\Access\BE\, right?

VTD: That's is probably too short.  It is more than:

\\ServerName\ShareName\DirectoryUnderShare\SubDir ...

> b)Where and how do I change the link?

VTD: Use the Link Table Manager under the Menu Tools / Database Utilities
...

> a) When is that going to be needed to be done?  When they first run the FE
> in
> Access?

VTD: Generally, I do all of this before publishing. Seee reply to next
question.

> b) I forgot to mention, will they be starting the application from their C
> drive
> or the projects folder where the BE is?

VTD: Each user should have a *separate* copy of the Front-End on his/her
work-station, perhaps, C: drive.  This way, each user runs an indenpendent
copy of the Front-End.

> Does Win2K have Network Neighborhood (it's been a while since I've used
> 2K)?

VTD: Yes
CAD Fiend - 13 Jul 2005 01:45 GMT
Van,

Please see my in-line comments. Thanks for your reply, too.

> See in-line comments.
>
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>
> \\ServerName\ShareName\DirectoryUnderShare\SubDir ...

Phil:  If I'm not there (and it's too far to drive), how can I get the correct
and full UNC path? What do I need to tell their IT person?

> > b)Where and how do I change the link?
>
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> work-station, perhaps, C: drive.  This way, each user runs an indenpendent
> copy of the Front-End.

Phil:  Is it possible for more than one user to open and enter data into their
respective forms? IOW, will it be possible for more than one person to be "in"
the database entering data into it?

> > Does Win2K have Network Neighborhood (it's been a while since I've used
> > 2K)?
>
> VTD: Yes
Van T. Dinh - 13 Jul 2005 02:20 GMT
See comments in-line.

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Van T. Dinh
MVP (Access)

> Phil:  If I'm not there (and it's too far to drive), how can I get the
> correct
> and full UNC path? What do I need to tell their IT person?

VTD: Network IT people know UNC inside out.  All you have to do is to show
them how to use the Link Table Manager.

> Phil:  Is it possible for more than one user to open and enter data into
> their
> respective forms? IOW, will it be possible for more than one person to be
> "in"
> the database entering data into it?

VTD: That's the whole idea.  They all share the Back-End where the data
resides. Make sure the "Record Locks" Property is properly set, usually
"Edited Record".
CAD Fiend - 13 Jul 2005 05:12 GMT
Van,

Please see my only comment in-line.

Phil.

> See comments in-line.
>
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> VTD: That's the whole idea.  They all share the Back-End where the data
> resides. Make sure the "Record Locks" Property is properly set,

Phil: I checked, and there is an option group under the "Advanced Tab" called
"Default Record Locking", and it has 3 radio buttons, one of which is "Edited
Record".  But right below the option group, there is checkbox, "Open databases
using record-level locking". Should that be checked ON as well?

> usually
> "Edited Record".
Van T. Dinh - 13 Jul 2005 05:44 GMT
There are advantages and disadvantages using "Record-level locking"

See The Microsoft Knowledge Base article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=275561

The options you set in the Tools / Options / Advanced tab is the *default*
option only.  You should check the Record Locks Property of each Form.

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Van T. Dinh
MVP (Access)

> Van,
>
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>> usually
>> "Edited Record".
 
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