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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 15:23 GMT
Hello,

can somebody please explain to me what ms access version should i use for
mutliple users?  is there an ms access network ver.?  

i will appreciate your help.  thanks!

vy
Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 15:33 GMT
Read your post from yesterday.

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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 15:57 GMT
hi rick!

i ddin't get any response from my yesterday's posting.  i saw your response
to a posting similar to mine, can you give me some thoughts about mine.  i
don't know if there's such a thing as ms access network ver.  or what we can
use for multiple users?  

thanks!

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 16:06 GMT
Your post from yesterday has SEVERAL responses.  go look at it.

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 16:07 GMT
Make that "2" posts.  One from me, and one from an MVP.

Rick B

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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 16:37 GMT
i can't find it. there's just one post dated 03-31-05; running slow
report..., i can't find mine.

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT
From John...

>help!  i'm developing a database, very complicated one and it will be saved
>in a server.  there will be multiple users for this database, what version
of
>ms access can i use?

1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 95, 97, 2000, 2002, or 2003 should work just fine.
Access is multiuser out of the box.

>is there such thing as ms access network version?

All of the above.

What you'll need to do is use the Database Splitter Wizard, or
manually split the database into a "Frontend" containing the forms,
reports, queries and so on, linked to a shared "Backend" containing
only the data tables. Each user will need Access installed (either
retail Access or the "runtime" available from the Developer's
Toolkit), and a copy of the frontend.

                 John W. Vinson[MVP]

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT
From me...

Any version of Access will work.

Each user will need Access on their local machine, unless you plan to
purchase the developer's edition and package the database application with a
run-time version of Access.

Do your users all have the application?

How many users will you have?

Are you a pretty advanced application developer?

Rick B

"sparkle_vy" <sparkle_vy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD26B899-5E84-45B8-B1C1-87150EBF1C46@microsoft.com...
> help!  i'm developing a database, very complicated one and it will be
saved
> in a server.  there will be multiple users for this database, what version
of
> ms access can i use?  is there such thing as ms access network version?

> i can't find it. there's just one post dated 03-31-05; running slow
> report..., i can't find mine.
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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 17:17 GMT
thanks!  i got the one you forwarded from mvp too.

there will be at least 10 users who will update and work on the database.  i
was wondering why is it that when my  coworker tried to open the database
while i am also using it didn't allow her to open the database. and we're
using ms access 2000.  it's not allowing us to open/update at the same time.  
yeah, the users have the application on their own hard drive and the database
file is saved on the server.

nope, im just learning to use ms access, i know a little of c++ and that's
it.  i will  need alot of tips to finish a project.  

thanks

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 17:25 GMT
Do you all have FULL access to the folder in which the database lives?  When
one person opens a database it creates a lock file (ldb) in the folder.
When the next user opens the databse they update that file.  When the last
person using the database shuts it down, they delete that lock file.

Full windows permissions to the folder are needed to perform those tasks.

Rick B

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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 17:39 GMT
every body have full access to the folder where the database is saved.  how
do i do that, to activate/deactivate the full windows permission?

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 17:58 GMT
Your system administrator who creates the network logons should be able to
set the appropriate permissions, or tell you how.

Rick B

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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 18:39 GMT
i see, so access 2000 can be used and updated by multiple user, only if the
administrator changes the network logons that will allow everybody to use the
database.  thanks rick!

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Larry  Linson - 02 Apr 2005 04:31 GMT
> i see, so access 2000 can be used and
>  updated by multiple user, only if the
> administrator changes the network logons
> that will allow everybody to use the
> database.  thanks rick!

To add to Rick's very good advice, just a word of caution -- if you are
doing anything with Access 2000, make certain that you have all three
Service Packs applied, and all other updates. Even so, I'd feel more
comfortable with Access 2002 or 2003 with all Service Packs and updates.

And, covering other general topics on multiuser, there's an introductory
presentation on Access in a Multiuser Environment that I did for my user
group that you can download from http://appdevissues.tripod.com. It will
identify topics that I thought worthwhile to discuss, and a bit more. The
best collection of detailed information and links on the subject of Access
in the multiuser environment is at MVP Tony Toews' site,
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm.

 Larry Linson
 Microsoft Access MVP
sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 16:41 GMT
i only saw 2 postings for 03-31-05: compacting and reparing and record
locking, i can't find mine.

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Rick B - 01 Apr 2005 17:03 GMT
You did not post it in the multiuser newsgroup.

you posted it in microsoft.public.access

Rick B

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sparkle_vy - 01 Apr 2005 17:35 GMT
i don't even know how i did that.  it was my first time to do this yesterday.
thanks for letting me know.

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Klatuu - 06 Apr 2005 18:37 GMT
Sparkle,
I think Rick B spent more time referring you to a previous post than it
would to have answered the question.

Any verison will do; however, I would recommed at least 2000.  Now, there
are some issues regarding multi-users.  Get a good book on Access that will
explain it in detail.  The short of it is:

Once you have your application to a point where the tables and indexes are
defined, use the database splitter to create a back end database.  It should
contain data and only data.  All other object should be in the front end.

Put the back end mdb file on a server where all users have rights.  
Distribute the front end to the users for them to put on their own PC.  Be
sure to use absolute addressing in you table links since all users will not
have the same drive mappings.

Be sure you address record locking.  The more users you have, the more
important this becomes.  It is too involved to discuss here.  Read you book.

Good Luck

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