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jsc3489 - 07 Dec 2005 21:38 GMT
Arno R:

I was enjoying myself on all the rants against Steve a.k.a "PC Datahack" and
was interested to read the link below, but, it appears to be dead..any info?

Before you intend to do business with him look at:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html ; (updated)

Arno R

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fredg - 07 Dec 2005 22:17 GMT
> Arno R:
>
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>
> Arno R

Those are not 'rants, and believe me, none of us enjoy having to reply
to him. Steve is actively soliciting business in newsgroups dedicated
to free help. (See his first response to poster Fehn in the 'Calendar
and time sheet' thread in this newsgroup on 12/2/2005.)

By the way, that link works fine for me.
Perhaps you included the ; (updated) with the link.
Try it again.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
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Please respond only to this newsgroup.
I do not reply to personal e-mail

jsc3489 - 08 Dec 2005 15:20 GMT
rant    

v. intr.
To speak or write in a angry or violent manner; rave.    <-- all but this?

v. tr.
To utter or express with violence or extravagance: a dictator who ranted his
vitriol onto a captive audience.

n.
Violent or extravagant speech or writing.
A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence: “The vast
majority [of teenagers logged onto the Internet] did not encounter recipes
for pipe bombs or deranged rants about white supremacy” (Daniel Okrent).
Chiefly British. Wild or uproarious merriment.

Yes, I believe the correct term is 'rant'. Sort of. You may not be writing
in an angry manner, but your angry having to write about it at all. As I
would be.

What a troll.

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I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Promote hydrogen - one of the best "clean" fuels there are!

> > Arno R:
> >
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> Try it again.
> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
PC Datasheet - 09 Dec 2005 22:56 GMT
Read the post again and this time read it carefully. Then look at the third
post in this thread by the original poster. PT Barnum said "........."
It looks very much like Arno R or one of his henchman have duped you!! And
you continue to support and promote that conduct!!

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                                       PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
                             resource@pcdatasheet.com
                                www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

>> Arno R:
>>
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> Try it again.
> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
John Marshall, MVP - 09 Dec 2005 23:04 GMT
So this is your obtuse way of saying you do not care about respecting the
users in these newsgroups and are going to continue using these newsgroups
for solicitation?

John...    Visio MVP

> Read the post again and this time read it carefully. Then look at the
> third post in this thread by the original poster. PT Barnum said
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>                                        PC Datasheet
PC Datasheet - 10 Dec 2005 00:33 GMT
One of Arno R's henchmen just answered. Is he the one who posted the
original post in this thread?????

I keep getting unwanted email sent to my office by Arno R. I'm also getting
other forms of harassment at my office. Your supporting and promoting this
kind of action????

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                                       PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
                             resource@pcdatasheet.com
                                www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

>> Arno R:
>>
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> Try it again.
> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
Rob Oldfield - 10 Dec 2005 17:19 GMT
You mean you think it's wrong to post under fake/multiple identities?

> One of Arno R's henchmen just answered. Is he the one who posted the
> original post in this thread?????
PC Datasheet - 11 Dec 2005 16:48 GMT
You don't get it! Anyone with half a brain cell would see that Arno R or one
of his goons posted that to post the subversive website about me. Do you
approve of this in the newsgroups?

To answer your question --
No! Many MVPs do it and its done for many reasons. Just take a look through
the posts and see how many aliases are used.

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Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
                             resource@pcdatasheet.com
                                www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

> You mean you think it's wrong to post under fake/multiple identities?
>
>> One of Arno R's henchmen just answered. Is he the one who posted the
>> original post in this thread?????
Rob Oldfield - 11 Dec 2005 17:17 GMT
...or you could just do a quick Google for jsc3489 and discover that you
appear to be talking garbage.

And would you like to find me a post from an MVP using an alias?

> You don't get it! Anyone with half a brain cell would see that Arno R or one
> of his goons posted that to post the subversive website about me. Do you
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> >> One of Arno R's henchmen just answered. Is he the one who posted the
> >> original post in this thread?????
jsc3489 - 14 Dec 2005 18:16 GMT
PC Datacreep:

You don't get it!

I am an independant user who looks to these NG's for FREE help. I do not
care for
the low and underhanded means of your 'advertising' as many people feel as
well.  
' If wanted fries with that, I would have asked!'

I only mentioned the link as my interest to your behavior to 'offer services
for a fee' when no one else here does. :P

Buyer beware!
There is nothing wrong with 'shopping' around. If the service is lack, I
move on.

I hate pushy people, and you sir, are pushy.

jsc3489
 --
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
jsc3489 - 14 Dec 2005 18:27 GMT
Oh, and what a doofus.

                                       PC Datahack
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
                             resource@pcdatahack.com
                                www.pcdatahack.com

and

'Before you intend to do business with him look at:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html ; (updated)'

in the same post.

BWAAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!

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> One of Arno R's henchmen just answered. Is he the one who posted the
> original post in this thread?????
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> > Try it again.
> > http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
Arno R - 08 Dec 2005 16:33 GMT
> Arno R:
>
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> Before you intend to do business with him look at:
> http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html ; (updated)

It is possible that the link actually has been dead for a little while, or will be dead for some time shortly, or both.
My ISP has changed (from tiscali to planet) and I know 'they' are working these weeks to redirect all the homepages.
The link you mention however will continue to work until December 2006 I have been told.
If necessary I can/will put the pages elsewhere.

Btw: I have not enjoyed all this. In fact I was getting sick and tired of it ...
but I guess it's 'game over' for PCD now which is a good thing.

Arno R
jsc3489 - 08 Dec 2005 18:57 GMT
May I say it is an honor and privilage to receive a post by you.

I have great respect for all who devote their time and effort to help others
no matter what the field. The people in these NG's especially.

I did not mean to imply you enjoyed chasing Steve. I admire your
determination.

Incidentally, what happened to Steve? Did he finally just give up?

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Promote hydrogen - one of the best "clean" fuels there are!

Keith W - 09 Dec 2005 08:52 GMT
> May I say it is an honor and privilage to receive a post by you.
>
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>
> Incidentally, what happened to Steve? Did he finally just give up?

Sadly no, he's still on CDMA advertising, though currently less frequently.
Vincent Johns - 09 Dec 2005 09:33 GMT
>>May I say it is an honor and privilage to receive a post by you.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Sadly no, he's still on CDMA advertising, though currently less frequently.

Wow!  That was pretty sudden.  Last I saw, only a couple of days ago it
seems, he was still complaining just as annoyingly as ever about people
interfering with his spamming the NGs.  (Worse, he was making some
apparently false claims that some other contributors here supported his
mischief.)  I just hope not too many NG visitors were misled by him.

  -- Vincent Johns <vjohns@alumni.caltech.edu>
  Please feel free to quote anything I say here.
Keith W - 09 Dec 2005 10:16 GMT
>> Sadly no, he's still on CDMA advertising, though currently less
>> frequently.
>
> Wow!  That was pretty sudden.  Last I saw, only a couple of days ago it
> seems, he was still complaining just as annoyingly as ever about people
> interfering with his spamming the NGs.

He's only posted a handful since 5 Dec.
Vincent Johns - 09 Dec 2005 12:49 GMT
>>>Sadly no, he's still on CDMA advertising, though currently less
>>>frequently.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> He's only posted a handful since 5 Dec.

I wouldn't have been nearly as annoyed with him had his sig line said
something like "Visit my Web site at www.... for my suggestions on
developing a database", actually post something useful on his Web site,
and put his advertising there.  I'd expect that he'd even get some bites
that way, if the site looked good enough.

  -- Vincent Johns <vjohns@alumni.caltech.edu>
  Please feel free to quote anything I say here.
StopThisAdvertising - 09 Dec 2005 13:25 GMT
>>> Sadly no, he's still on CDMA advertising, though currently less
>>> frequently.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> He's only posted a handful since 5 Dec.

In my reader (Dutch time) I see the following last posts of Steve:
-- ms.public.access.gettingstarted     Dec 4   22:02
-- ms.public.accessformscoding       Nov 29 01:14
-- ms.public.accesstablesdesign       Nov 30 06:16
(I did not spot him in the other ms.public.access groups for quite a while)

-- In cdma 5 posts since Dec 5 (4 arguing with people, or trying to convince people, 1 new job-hunt-attempt)

So it seems indeed that he still refuses to give up his job hunting.
He doesn't even know when he has lost? He doesn't even realise it's *game over*?

So we will just keep watching him.
The only thing needed is a quick reply (as soon as possible) with a link to:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

As far as I am concerned: anyone here is allowed to show that link.
We don't think that will bring Steve *a lot* of new customers from the groups ...
Maybe he will quit *the game* as soon as he understands this?
Maybe not? We will see.

Btw:
Yesterday was a 'busy' day on that site:
==> 35 unique visitors.
==> 26 first time visitors.
==> 9 returning visitors.

Arno R
Ed Warren - 09 Dec 2005 14:13 GMT
Just curious: What, where is CDMA? (might be another good place to find
information)

Thanks

Ed Warren

"Keith W" <here@there.com> schreef in bericht
news:439956c4$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
>> Keith W wrote:
>>
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>
> He's only posted a handful since 5 Dec.

In my reader (Dutch time) I see the following last posts of Steve:
-- ms.public.access.gettingstarted     Dec 4   22:02
-- ms.public.accessformscoding       Nov 29 01:14
-- ms.public.accesstablesdesign       Nov 30 06:16
(I did not spot him in the other ms.public.access groups for quite a while)

-- In cdma 5 posts since Dec 5 (4 arguing with people, or trying to convince
people, 1 new job-hunt-attempt)

So it seems indeed that he still refuses to give up his job hunting.
He doesn't even know when he has lost? He doesn't even realise it's *game
over*?

So we will just keep watching him.
The only thing needed is a quick reply (as soon as possible) with a link to:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html

As far as I am concerned: anyone here is allowed to show that link.
We don't think that will bring Steve *a lot* of new customers from the
groups ...
Maybe he will quit *the game* as soon as he understands this?
Maybe not? We will see.

Btw:
Yesterday was a 'busy' day on that site:
==> 35 unique visitors.
==> 26 first time visitors.
==> 9 returning visitors.

Arno R
Randy Harris - 09 Dec 2005 14:31 GMT
> Just curious: What, where is CDMA? (might be another good place to find
> information)
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed Warren

Ed,

CDMA is shorthand for the usenet newsgroup comp.databases.ms-access.  It is
a truly remarkable resource for free exchange of information on virtually
any topic related to MS-Access.  There are many professional consultants and
many amatuers (like me) who almost invariably provide quick, friendly and
mostly helpful responses to questions.  (Interspersed with an occassional
socially significant off topic debate, such as the proper temperature to
serve beer).  All are welcome.

Randy Harris
StopThisAdvertising - 09 Dec 2005 14:40 GMT
comp.databases.ms-access

Simply the 'best' access newsgroup IMHO

Arno R

> Just curious: What, where is CDMA? (might be another good place to find
> information)
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>
> Arno R
Ed Warren - 09 Dec 2005 14:50 GMT
Thanks guys, I've been looking for another list to 'haunt'.  Will subscribe
and lurk for a while.

Ed Warren.

comp.databases.ms-access

Simply the 'best' access newsgroup IMHO

Arno R

"Ed Warren" <eowarren@fakeaddress.zzz> schreef in bericht
news:eOnqHrM$FHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Just curious: What, where is CDMA? (might be another good place to find
> information)
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> Arno R
 
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