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Upsizing Wizard and SQl Server 2005

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Ed Warren - 15 Nov 2005 13:06 GMT
Can the upsizing wizard be made to work with SQL Server 2005?
When I try to upsize to SQL Server 2005, the connection fails.  Is there a
workaround?  Right now I have figured out 'a way' by upsizing to an instance
of sql server 2000 then detaching and attaching the database.  In the very
near future, I will need to drop the Sql 2000 instance and work only with
Sql 2005.

Thanks,

Ed Warren.
Rick Brandt - 15 Nov 2005 13:17 GMT
> Can the upsizing wizard be made to work with SQL Server 2005?
> When I try to upsize to SQL Server 2005, the connection fails.  Is
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> Thanks,

I would use SSIS/DTS on the server to import the tables and data instead of
using the upsize tool.  You have a lot more control over the process and going
in that direction eliminates your compatability issue.

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Ed Warren - 15 Nov 2005 15:06 GMT
Thanks, I'm trying to get all this figured out.  SSIS sort of works, but
chokes on Access Date/time fields.  UGH!!

Ed Warren

>> Can the upsizing wizard be made to work with SQL Server 2005?
>> When I try to upsize to SQL Server 2005, the connection fails.  Is
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> of using the upsize tool.  You have a lot more control over the process
> and going in that direction eliminates your compatability issue.
Rick Brandt - 15 Nov 2005 15:26 GMT
> Thanks, I'm trying to get all this figured out.  SSIS sort of works,
> but chokes on Access Date/time fields.  UGH!!

Really?  We've just installed SS 2005 so I haven't messed with SSIS yet, but
I have used DTS in SS 2000 quite a bit and have not had that problem with
Access tables.  I *have* seen DTS reject a date from an ISeries import of
1/1/1900 even though that is a perfectly legitimate date for SS.  I was able
to use a script in the DTS transform to get around the problem.

Strangely enough I used IsDate() in an If-Then block and told it to
substitute '1900-01-01' whenever IsDate() failed and then all of the records
came over just fine.  So I was effectively telling it to substitute the same
value that it was rejecting and had no problems.  Seems as if the DTS tool
has a different notion of what is a valid date then the actual database
engine does.

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Ed Warren - 15 Nov 2005 16:30 GMT
I had imported the same Access Database using DTS some time ago, but have
not taken a close look at the data/time fields to make sure all of them are
valid.

There very well may be a problem with the actual data in the original
database, but when I changed the data type from date/time to text it
imported straight away.  To be honest, I'm really new to this and I am
trying to cover a lot of ground at one go.  I have not gone back through the
data to verify that all the date fields are 'valid', I do know that at some
of them are <null>.

Thanks for the small glimmer of hope  ;>

Ed Warren

>> Thanks, I'm trying to get all this figured out.  SSIS sort of works,
>> but chokes on Access Date/time fields.  UGH!!
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> has a different notion of what is a valid date then the actual database
> engine does.
Rick Brandt - 15 Nov 2005 17:17 GMT
> I had imported the same Access Database using DTS some time ago, but
> have not taken a close look at the data/time fields to make sure all
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> Thanks for the small glimmer of hope  ;>

The Date/Time type in Access has a wider range of valid values than the
DateTime in SQL Server.  Access can go all the way back to year 100 (I
think) and SS only goes back to the year 1900 (or is it 1901?).

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Ed Warren - 16 Nov 2005 02:41 GMT
I found the little culprit hiding way down deep in the data pile.  A 'bad
date' just like you said something like 6/1/256.
Now it works like a charm.

Ed Warren.

>> I had imported the same Access Database using DTS some time ago, but
>> have not taken a close look at the data/time fields to make sure all
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> DateTime in SQL Server.  Access can go all the way back to year 100 (I
> think) and SS only goes back to the year 1900 (or is it 1901?).
 
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