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GETTING ERROR# AS DEFAULT VALUE IN CALCULATED TEXT FEILD

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vandy - 15 Jun 2007 14:46 GMT
Hello All,

I have a subform were the user inputs Qty received . The form has the total
qty received were it sums the qty recieved and displays. The problem  I am
facing is, when there are no items received yet the Qty received displays as
0 and the total is blank which is correct. Everything was working fine till i
gave selective access to the users to use the form. Those who have full data
user access have no issues. The users who have read only access get an error#
in the total qty received calculated text box. When they click on the item
that has not been received yet there is no row displayed on the subform and
so the value in the text field is error# . Is there anyway i can get it to
display 0. I tried default value options, valid text option!!

any help would be appreciated.

thanks
Marshall Barton - 15 Jun 2007 15:50 GMT
>I have a subform were the user inputs Qty received . The form has the total
>qty received were it sums the qty recieved and displays. The problem  I am
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>so the value in the text field is error# . Is there anyway i can get it to
>display 0. I tried default value options, valid text option!!

The error is, as you said, because there is nothing to sum.

I guess there is a question why different users should see a
different total.  Isn't the quantity received the same
regardless of who looks at it, even if some of them can not
see all of the records?  If so, then you might want to use
DSum to calculate the total in the table instead of just the
total of what is displayed on the form.

If you really do want to display the total of just the data
displayed in the form, you can get a zero by checking for
the situation where there is no information:
    =IIf(Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0, Sum(Qty), 0)

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Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

vandy - 15 Jun 2007 17:18 GMT
Thanks Marshall,

Were does one use this formula. I tried it in the validation rule section of
the text field holding the value. The sum is getting calculated in form which
is called up as the subform. So i am confused as to were to apply this
formula.

> >I have a subform were the user inputs Qty received . The form has the total
> >qty received were it sums the qty recieved and displays. The problem  I am
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> the situation where there is no information:
>     =IIf(Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0, Sum(Qty), 0)
Marshall Barton - 15 Jun 2007 19:22 GMT
You were supposed to use that in the subform total text
box's Control Source instead of just using =Sum(Amt)

If that's not what you are doing, then maybe you are
calculating the total in the subform but displaying it in a
mainform text box.  with this arrangement, the subform
header/footer text box uses the control source expression:
=Sum(Amt)

The main form text box that is used to display the total
calculated in the subform would use a control source
expression like:
=IIf(subformcontrol.Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0,
subformcontrol.Form.subformtextbox, 0)

If I am still missing the point, please explain where and
how the total is calculated and where it displayed
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Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

>Were does one use this formula. I tried it in the validation rule section of
>the text field holding the value. The sum is getting calculated in form which
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>> the situation where there is no information:
>>     =IIf(Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0, Sum(Qty), 0)
vandy - 18 Jun 2007 14:55 GMT
Hi Marshall,

I have a situation were i calculate a subform total.

sum([stock_in_qty])
name this text box final_sum_tot_in

In the main form call the subform in a datasheet view and  call the text box

the formula is automatically selected as
=child12.form!final_sum_tot_in

when i apply your formula, i dont think i am applyling it in the right order.

=IIf(Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0, Sum(stock_in_Qty), 0) in the subform.

In the main form i use
IIf(child12.form!final_sum_tot_in > 0,
child12.form!final_sum_tot_in, 0)

is this correct.

I am quite new to form coding , any help at your end would be appreciated.

> You were supposed to use that in the subform total text
> box's Control Source instead of just using =Sum(Amt)
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> >> the situation where there is no information:
> >>     =IIf(Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0, Sum(Qty), 0)
Marshall Barton - 18 Jun 2007 16:55 GMT
>I have a situation were i calculate a subform total.
>
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>IIf(child12.form!final_sum_tot_in > 0,
>child12.form!final_sum_tot_in, 0)

Try this in the main form text box:

=IIf(child12.Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0,
child12.form!final_sum_tot_in, 0)

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Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

missinglinq - 18 Jun 2007 17:16 GMT
Since you're talking about a calculated value, is it possible that Access
doesn't allow the calculations to be run since the form is Read Only?

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vandy - 18 Jun 2007 18:52 GMT
I tried this formula in the main form

=IIf([Child12].[Form].[Recordset].[RecordCount]>0,[Child12].[Form]![final_sum_tot_in],0)

I am getting a #name? error what does this mean

> >I have a situation were i calculate a subform total.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> =IIf(child12.Form.Recordset.RecordCount > 0,
> child12.form!final_sum_tot_in, 0)
Marshall Barton - 18 Jun 2007 20:38 GMT
>I tried this formula in the main form
>
>=IIf([Child12].[Form].[Recordset].[RecordCount]>0,[Child12].[Form]![final_sum_tot_in],0)
>
>I am getting a #name? error what does this mean

#Name means that one of the names in the expression does not
exist.  You only have two names to double check:

final_sum_tot_in  is the name of the =Sum(...) text box in
the subform

Child12  is the name of the subform ***CONTROL*** on the
main form.  Don't confuse the name of the control that
displays the form being used as a subform with the name of
form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
name).

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Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

vandy - 19 Jun 2007 14:28 GMT
Hi Marshall,

I am back. I tried this

=IIf(Child24.Form!tot_received>0,Child24.Form!tot_received,0) formala it
worked for full data users the total dispalyes 0 for items not yet received.

When  read only users open the form the same error# is listed on the text.
Is there any way i can show them the first record for read only users. Is
there any way to work around this!!

Thanks for your help.

> >I tried this formula in the main form
> >
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> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
> name).
Marshall Barton - 19 Jun 2007 15:53 GMT
Is  this a different problem?  What happened to the #Name
problem?  Why are you using Child24?  What happened to
Child12?

What situation are you trying to deal with now?

What does the form do differently for "read only" users?
What error number are you getting now?  Or is the text box
displaying #Error?

If the text box is displaying #Error when the subform does
not have any records to display, then the problem is the
same as before.  Checking for Child24.Form!tot_received>0 is
INVALID when there are no records to sum up, which is why I
keep telling you to check the subform's recordset's record
count.
Signature

Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

>I am back. I tried this
>
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>> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
>> name).
vandy - 19 Jun 2007 16:53 GMT
Hi Marshall,

I did not mean to mislead you!!

I have changed my subform and hence child24.

I am using this formula on the main form text feild.

=IIf(Child24.Form.Recordset.RecordCount>0,Child24.Form!tot_received,0)

If I understand it , child24.form (points to subform) it checks for records
and if it is not null it would give the total and if false it should display
0 .
I have the database preloaded with product and item nos.
When a person receives an item qty the total should be displayed , till then
the qty should be 0.

The message which is displayed using the above formula is #Name? and the
values were items have been received does not total off.

I have a subform (child24) were i total the qty using sum(qty) call it
tot_received.

In my main form i open my main form and then the subform and select
tot_received it automatically points to child24.Form!tot_received.
so i am positive that child24 is my childform.

were can i see the name of my main form value. what am i doing wrong. Thanks
for your patience but perhaps i am missing something which is very simple.

> Is  this a different problem?  What happened to the #Name
> problem?  Why are you using Child24?  What happened to
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> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
> >> name).
Marshall Barton - 19 Jun 2007 18:44 GMT
For an explanation of #Name, review my previous reply.

Let's back up a little and try to find out what's going on
in the subform.  Is it displayed in single, continuous or
datasheet view?  If it is in datasheet, then change it to
single or continuous and make sure the form footer section
is visible.  When you switch the main form from design view
to form view, what is displayed in the subform total text
box?
Signature

Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

>I have changed my subform and hence child24.
>
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>> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
>> >> name).
vandy - 19 Jun 2007 20:36 GMT
I have created a subform in tabular view. Ensured the footer section is
visible.
I have included the subform in the main form.

when i open the main form in the design view and go to the subform footer
secion this is the formula which sum contains.

=Sum([UnitsReceived])
I have named the text field -tot_received

Am i correct till this step!

> For an explanation of #Name, review my previous reply.
>
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> >> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
> >> >> name).
Marshall Barton - 19 Jun 2007 21:08 GMT
That looks correct, what does the subform total text box
display?  Is it different from what the main form text box
displays.
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Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

>I have created a subform in tabular view. Ensured the footer section is
>visible.
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>> >> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
>> >> >> name).
vandy - 20 Jun 2007 13:36 GMT
Hi Marshall,

I am back!!

The subform text feild contains:
=Sum([UnitsReceived])

The mainform text feild contains:
=[Child24].[Form]![tot_received]
were
tot_received = sum([UnitsReceived])
How to proceed from here!!

Thanks once again!!

> That looks correct, what does the subform total text box
> display?  Is it different from what the main form text box
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> >> >> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
> >> >> >> name).
vandy - 20 Jun 2007 15:51 GMT
Hi Marshall

I found the solution to my problem in the same discussion group with the
subject #error solution given by ofer.

I used this formula and it worked. Now for all read only users the #error is
replaced by 0 and all calculated values are being displayed correctly. It
checks for iserror.

=IIf(IsError(Child24.Form!tot_received),0,Child24.Form!tot_received)

but using your formula it should have worked too. what was i doing wrong!!
Do let me know if you find out. Thanks for all your help and patience.

> That looks correct, what does the subform total text box
> display?  Is it different from what the main form text box
[quoted text clipped - 88 lines]
> >> >> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
> >> >> >> name).
Marshall Barton - 20 Jun 2007 17:49 GMT
Using IsError can mask other problems as well as the
specific case you are trying to deal with so it's painting
with a broader brush than you should need.  You might a
result of 0 when something else goes wrong, but you will
probably notice whatever else is not working so it's no
great worry.

OTOH, we have not been able to figure out why using the
Recordset.RecordCount generates a #Name problem even though
both ideas use the same names???
Signature

Marsh
MVP [MS Access]

>I found the solution to my problem in the same discussion group with the
>subject #error solution given by ofer.
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>> >> >> >> form being displayed (they may or may not have the same
>> >> >> >> name).
 
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