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MS Access Forum / Developer Toolkits / January 2005Installing Access XP RunTime
Att: Michael Cheng [MSFT] Have set up a new installation using the Packaging Wizard, could you please list the service packs that need to be run after installation of runtime. Am using Access XP on Windows XP or Windows 2003 machines. Regards Di http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate AFAIK, Office Update works on Runtime just as well as Retail versions.  SignatureGeorge Nicholson Remove 'Junk' from return address. > Att: Michael Cheng [MSFT] > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Regards > Di George, Thanks for your response. It's greatly appreciated. I was hoping that I could copy the service packs onto the installation CD instead of using the Office Update. Some of my clients might not have broadband and I just feel it's more considerate to give the updates on CD. To be absolutely honest, I can't understand why MS don't give developers an update that allows us to produce an "up to date" version of the Run Time - after all we paid for the developer version shouldn't they keep that up to date as well. Thanks again for your feedback. Regards Di > http://office.microsoft.com/officeupdate > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> Regards >> Di The updates are available for download at Paul, Thanks for taking the time - it's really appreciated. I followed your link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/results.aspx?freetext=Microsoft+Access+2002&p roductID=327F343D-F0D6-4E07-AA53-9656EDB98ADA&DisplayLang=en and found the following updates: access2002-runtime-kb813617-client-enu.exe 2719 KB dated 29th April,2003 Access 2002 Runtime Security Patch: KB827430 officexp-kb827430-client-enu.exe 575 KB dated 3rd Sept, 2003 Am confused even further because I'd been looking at: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdate/CD010225581033.aspx and thought I needed the following updates: Office XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) for Access 2002 Runtime Art2002Sp3-kb834693-client-enu.exe 5274 KB dated 9th March, 2004 Office XP Security Update: KB832332 officexp-kb832332-v2-client-enu.exe 1251 kb dated 12th October, 2004 Am not using Multilanguage or SQL so didn't need Access 2002 Update: KB833857 officexp-kb833857-client-enu.exe 2472 KB dated 23rd March, 2004 or the MultiLanguage update. Assume that I install Office XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) for Access 2002 Runtime in lieu of Office XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) when only installing Access Run Time. Also assumed SP3 is an accumulative patch and includes Office XP Update: Service Pack 1 (SP-1) and Service Pack 2 To add to all this confusion, I formatted a new drive, installed Windows XP SP1 (without any patches) and then installed my Runtime & program. Not another program was installed on the computer. Logged onto the MS website and ran the Office Update wizard and was told the only update I needed was Office XP Service Pack for Access 2002 Runtime. Do we also need to install Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 (SP8) for Windows XP (KB829558) and Microsoft Data Access Components (MDAC) 2.8? It would be lovely to have a definitive answer. Sorry if my reply is longer than anticipated will understand if you don't get time to reply. Regards Di You definitely need Art2002Sp3-kb834693-client-enu.exe. As for the others, they should be updated as part of the OS updates. The updates for Jet are OS specific...I believe the same is true for MDAC. So, unless you want to write a fancy installer to determine which OS the user is installing on, you're better off leaving it to the user to do the OS update. Maybe give them a notice that they should update their OS. SignaturePaul Overway Logico Solutions http://www.logico-solutions.com > Paul, > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Di Paul Thanks so much for your reply. I know why I stayed so long with Access2 runtimes. Best wishes Di > You definitely need Art2002Sp3-kb834693-client-enu.exe. As for the > others, they should be updated as part of the OS updates. The updates for [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> Di At least there is an update specifically for Access XP runtime. 2003 relies on a monolithic/bloated SP that is for the entire Office Suite! SignaturePaul Overway Logico Solutions http://www.logico-solutions.com > Paul > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >>> >>> Di If I could reliably package an Access 2003 Run Time I'd upgrade to that but at the moment I've decided to keep all clients who use an OS earlier than XP on my old Access 2 program (which still works brilliantly - apart from an intermittent problem with displaying charts - a known issue when OS is XP) and only clients who have WinXP or better can upgrade to new AccessXP version. Reading some of the probs with Access 2003 I decided to stay with Access XP but as we both realise there are issues here as well. Not too satisfactory. Thanks so much for taking the time with this Paul - it's really appreciated. Regards Di > At least there is an update specifically for Access XP runtime. 2003 > relies on a monolithic/bloated SP that is for the entire Office Suite! [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >>>> >>>> Di Why do you say "only clients who have WinXP or better can upgrade to new AccessXP"? According to http://www.microsoft.com/office/previous/xp/sysreqs.asp the system requirements for Office XP are Win98 or better. Even Office 2003 doesn't require WinXP or better: it'll run on Win 2000, SP3. SignatureDoug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP http://I.Am/DougSteele (no e-mails, please!) > If I could reliably package an Access 2003 Run Time I'd upgrade to that > but at the moment I've decided to keep all clients who use an OS earlier [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Di It's a support issue. If your client is remote and, for all you know doesn't even have internet access, how can you tell them what service packs, upgrades etc they need if you're catering for multiple OS.. Just thought WinXP was a good close off point. Regards Di > Why do you say "only clients who have WinXP or better can upgrade to new > AccessXP"? 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